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FanLIb: What Are Your Thoughts?

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this community and I have a question for those members with legal expertise.

What are your opinions on FanLib.com?

Some of you may or may not have heard about it, but it's avidly being discussed over at metafandom  and in many people's personal journals.

It's a new for-profit site for posting fanfiction from any fandom that was founded by a non-fandom group. Recently launched, it has many people on edge because it seems like these businessmen are trying to profit off of the hard work of fiction writers. It's catapulting fandom into the spotlight without actually asking us if we wanted to be there in the first place or understanding fandom at the most basic of levels. They have tried to engage members of fandom, but in doing so have really only shown their ignorance and insensitivity about the cares of fandom.

Their Terms of Service seem to be worrying some people the most. It's worded very sneakily and deliberately, but it effectively says, among other things, that you don't have a right to ask for royalties if they, for instance, decided to publish an anthology of fanfiction and sell it. This also means you lose your rights to your work. Furthermore, because they are such a mainstream website and are encouraging people to post fanfiction about works to which they do not hold copyrights, it seems as if they are inviting lawsuits and C&D orders. I don't think many users know this however because they state that they are backed by many big businesses and publishing houses like Harper Collins. They create a false sense of comfort without actually backing this up with facts. Also, if you do get sued, the TOS allows them to wash their hands of you.

This could be a case of fandom collectively overreacting and a new company starting off on the wrong foot, but it really doesn't seem like that all.

There are many other objections to the site being voiced, but I was just wondering what the lawyers in this comm thought of the it, its TOS, and how much of a legal risk fan writers would be taking if they posted their work on the site.



May. 21st, 2007 03:47 am (UTC)
I'm not a lawyer, but I had to comment..
Are these people insane? There's enough liability posting fanfiction on FF.net, Mediaminer.org, and the various other methods WITHOUT adding money into the picture.

Besides, why would anyone honestly pay to access a site with fanfiction when you can't take two steps without running into it for free?
May. 21st, 2007 04:40 am (UTC)
Re: I'm not a lawyer, but I had to comment..
You don't pay to access the site. They make money from the advertisements and helping their corporate backers organize events. I think they see themselves as the link between fans and the people with money.
May. 21st, 2007 10:52 am (UTC)
Re: I'm not a lawyer, but I had to comment..
Ah, I misunderstood that, but it's still a really bad idea.
May. 21st, 2007 03:48 pm (UTC)
But ffn has had ads for years, so another site having ads shouldn't be more problematic than what FFN has done.

May. 22nd, 2007 01:13 am (UTC)
There's a major difference there- they aren't trying to make money and they don't have big corporate sponsors, if they do have ads (and I haven't gone to FF.net in many years, mind you) it's probably to offset server costs. The hook here is the big corporate sponsors.
May. 23rd, 2007 03:21 am (UTC)
Hi, I'm wandering links related to the Fanlib discussion. Yes, fanfiction.net has ads. Sometimes big annoying ads. Or loud annoying ads. Or both. Firefox's Adblocker plugin makes them go away, but people with Internet Explorer have to put up with them.
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